A few weeks ago, as some or most of you already know, a website was created for the sole purpose of selling the infamous "Ghost Kill" plugin. The website more or less sent a wave of panic through the community, some didn't believe it, others were scared, because we all know & remember the devastating affects "GhostKill" had on the Everquest & Macroquest2 community previously.
The website, which will remain unnamed, starting selling their "GhostKill" that just happend to be someone elses work, they never had permission from the owner to redistribute this plugin. Along with the code being stolen, it required a MMOBugs compile to function properly, the DLL these guys sold, used certain plugins inside the MMOBugs compile, without those plugins the GhostKill wouldn’t work.
Once both communities had been alerted of this website, we started working together unofficially to figure out who these people were in our communities. We found a few of the guys in both communities, after trying to speak rationally with them, and having no success, both websites, Redguides and MMO decided to ban them.
Now in the mist of all of this, an old personal conflict between myself and Coffee (AKA "PMS" on Redguides) on MMOBugs, arose and caused problems. Now, I won't go into why we dislike each other, but, there are some things you need to know that ties this all together.
Coffee was banned from Redguides a few months ago. He broke several rules that warranted his ban. Now, let me remind everyone, here on Redguides, when someone is banned on Redguides, there is a process, and this process includes, posting all information such as quotes, private messages, and logs of why you think the person should be banned. Once everything is posted, the Administrators go through and see if the ban is justified. When I banned Coffee from Redguides, the majority of Redguides staff had seen all the evidence, they even talked with Coffee one on one and agreed on him being officially removed from this community.
Once, Coffee was banned from Redguides, he turned around and abused his power as an IRC operator on MMOBugs, and banned me from their IRC server. When he did this, he had no reason for banning me other than his own way of getting revenge. I contacted Fry (owner of MMOBugs) about this, he said sorry, I have removed your ban from IRC, this won’t happen again.
Now that you’re filled in on that, while trying to work with MMO's staff, Coffee got upset that I was frequently joining MMOBugs’ IRC chat. So, he decided to leave IRC, and a few days later, I was banned from MMOBugs’ IRC again. I went directly to Fry and asked why I was banned? He said, “I don’t know, let me find out.” He comes back about an hour later and states that Coffee had banned me again from IRC and he wouldn’t remove it, I asked why was I banned though? Fry responded saying there is no reason for your ban, take it up with coffee, I won’t remove it.
I then proceeded to speak in general channel about it, asking why if anyone could give me a reason for my IRC ban. After a few of them said pretty much the exact same thing Fry said, I turned around and banned 4 staff members of MMOBugs from Redguides and asked them, “Now that I have banned you from Redguides, wouldn’t you like to know a reason? Wouldn’t you expect a valid reason for your ban?” Anyways, I did it to prove a point, and I removed the bans 5 minutes later. No one deserves to be banned for nothing, atleast have a valid reason, it just isn’t professional.
Now, for the stuff that MMOBugs has neglected to tell you. “Why is Jigs21 going crazy and banning people from MMOBugs?”
Well, what MMOBugs neglected to tell you was, 4 staff members/developers from MMOBugs decided to make a website which I will not name, and impersonate me by using the name "Jigs21" on the website. They made a website to give away a free "GhostKill" and used my name to do it, they thought it would be very ironic and funny if they used my name, because, I am very anti-GhostKill, and I am totally against releasing it into the public.
They used the name Jigs21 as the Administrator of the website, they wanted to trick everyone into downloading this plugin, while getting a laugh at the whole irony behind it all, but also using my reputation at the same time to get people to download it without worrying.
Why did they do this?
Well, they didn't want to do this under MMOBUGS or their names, they didn't want to be affiliated with it nor their reputations squashed. So they used my name instead. They did this as well, to prevent the other GhostKill website from making money. I asked them, in the calmest way possible to remove my name from that website, and to stop impersonating me. They told me, NO, and laughed in my face.
But it didn’t stop there…
They also neglected to tell you, that they once again impersonated me, and signed up to the GhostKill website, that was selling GhostKill, with my name, and one of their developers posted my "Real life name, my phone number, and where I lived" acting as me. The Administrator of that website contacted me with the IP of the person who posted that information "acting as me" and the IP matched EXACTLY to one of the developers from MMO.
When you personally attack someone, when you bring real life information and you put it on the internet, there are repercussions, don't expect someone to take that lightly. So those 4 people from MMOBugs who are on the staff/development team that are playing dumb, and asking "Why did dat bad putty tat Jigs21 ban me from Redguides" stop trying to get sympathy from the community, you did something wrong, and not only that, you didn’t cover your trail, and your bans are JUSTIFIED for that reason.
You four people, I expected more maturity from your end, and you represented your website in the worst way possible. I will not name the four people who did this, you know who YOU are, and I hope you make smarter judgments in the future, I am now removing the ban of these people on Redguides.
Why would I do that?
Because, although, I was furious, about everything they did to me, and mind you, I had a right to be. I decided that banning them from this community permanently, would only be sinking to the level they sunk to when they pulled these stunts of impersonating me. In my investigation, and talking with plenty of people from MMOBugs, I am aware, I banned some people who were not involved, and I would like to extend an apology for what it’s worth, for banning you from this community for the mistakes of your colleagues.
Also, I would like to ask the people that were involved, please stop hiding behind lies, because evidence points in the other direction. You may get a few people to follow in your footsteps, and who may support you, but the people who matter, like the staff of this website, know otherwise.
Finally, I spoke with Fry and cleared up quite a bit of the drama, he made an apology on behalf of the people who conjured this plan. He also learned some of the people who claimed "innocent" weren't so innocent after all. Whether any action will be taken against them, is his choice.
I made this post in attempt to hopefully clear up some of the drama and lies. Be rest assured, this post is not meant to stir anything up, but just to straighten out a few things.
The website, which will remain unnamed, starting selling their "GhostKill" that just happend to be someone elses work, they never had permission from the owner to redistribute this plugin. Along with the code being stolen, it required a MMOBugs compile to function properly, the DLL these guys sold, used certain plugins inside the MMOBugs compile, without those plugins the GhostKill wouldn’t work.
Once both communities had been alerted of this website, we started working together unofficially to figure out who these people were in our communities. We found a few of the guys in both communities, after trying to speak rationally with them, and having no success, both websites, Redguides and MMO decided to ban them.
Now in the mist of all of this, an old personal conflict between myself and Coffee (AKA "PMS" on Redguides) on MMOBugs, arose and caused problems. Now, I won't go into why we dislike each other, but, there are some things you need to know that ties this all together.
Coffee was banned from Redguides a few months ago. He broke several rules that warranted his ban. Now, let me remind everyone, here on Redguides, when someone is banned on Redguides, there is a process, and this process includes, posting all information such as quotes, private messages, and logs of why you think the person should be banned. Once everything is posted, the Administrators go through and see if the ban is justified. When I banned Coffee from Redguides, the majority of Redguides staff had seen all the evidence, they even talked with Coffee one on one and agreed on him being officially removed from this community.
Once, Coffee was banned from Redguides, he turned around and abused his power as an IRC operator on MMOBugs, and banned me from their IRC server. When he did this, he had no reason for banning me other than his own way of getting revenge. I contacted Fry (owner of MMOBugs) about this, he said sorry, I have removed your ban from IRC, this won’t happen again.
Now that you’re filled in on that, while trying to work with MMO's staff, Coffee got upset that I was frequently joining MMOBugs’ IRC chat. So, he decided to leave IRC, and a few days later, I was banned from MMOBugs’ IRC again. I went directly to Fry and asked why I was banned? He said, “I don’t know, let me find out.” He comes back about an hour later and states that Coffee had banned me again from IRC and he wouldn’t remove it, I asked why was I banned though? Fry responded saying there is no reason for your ban, take it up with coffee, I won’t remove it.
I then proceeded to speak in general channel about it, asking why if anyone could give me a reason for my IRC ban. After a few of them said pretty much the exact same thing Fry said, I turned around and banned 4 staff members of MMOBugs from Redguides and asked them, “Now that I have banned you from Redguides, wouldn’t you like to know a reason? Wouldn’t you expect a valid reason for your ban?” Anyways, I did it to prove a point, and I removed the bans 5 minutes later. No one deserves to be banned for nothing, atleast have a valid reason, it just isn’t professional.
Now, for the stuff that MMOBugs has neglected to tell you. “Why is Jigs21 going crazy and banning people from MMOBugs?”
Well, what MMOBugs neglected to tell you was, 4 staff members/developers from MMOBugs decided to make a website which I will not name, and impersonate me by using the name "Jigs21" on the website. They made a website to give away a free "GhostKill" and used my name to do it, they thought it would be very ironic and funny if they used my name, because, I am very anti-GhostKill, and I am totally against releasing it into the public.
They used the name Jigs21 as the Administrator of the website, they wanted to trick everyone into downloading this plugin, while getting a laugh at the whole irony behind it all, but also using my reputation at the same time to get people to download it without worrying.
Why did they do this?
Well, they didn't want to do this under MMOBUGS or their names, they didn't want to be affiliated with it nor their reputations squashed. So they used my name instead. They did this as well, to prevent the other GhostKill website from making money. I asked them, in the calmest way possible to remove my name from that website, and to stop impersonating me. They told me, NO, and laughed in my face.
But it didn’t stop there…
They also neglected to tell you, that they once again impersonated me, and signed up to the GhostKill website, that was selling GhostKill, with my name, and one of their developers posted my "Real life name, my phone number, and where I lived" acting as me. The Administrator of that website contacted me with the IP of the person who posted that information "acting as me" and the IP matched EXACTLY to one of the developers from MMO.
When you personally attack someone, when you bring real life information and you put it on the internet, there are repercussions, don't expect someone to take that lightly. So those 4 people from MMOBugs who are on the staff/development team that are playing dumb, and asking "Why did dat bad putty tat Jigs21 ban me from Redguides" stop trying to get sympathy from the community, you did something wrong, and not only that, you didn’t cover your trail, and your bans are JUSTIFIED for that reason.
You four people, I expected more maturity from your end, and you represented your website in the worst way possible. I will not name the four people who did this, you know who YOU are, and I hope you make smarter judgments in the future, I am now removing the ban of these people on Redguides.
Why would I do that?
Because, although, I was furious, about everything they did to me, and mind you, I had a right to be. I decided that banning them from this community permanently, would only be sinking to the level they sunk to when they pulled these stunts of impersonating me. In my investigation, and talking with plenty of people from MMOBugs, I am aware, I banned some people who were not involved, and I would like to extend an apology for what it’s worth, for banning you from this community for the mistakes of your colleagues.
Also, I would like to ask the people that were involved, please stop hiding behind lies, because evidence points in the other direction. You may get a few people to follow in your footsteps, and who may support you, but the people who matter, like the staff of this website, know otherwise.
Finally, I spoke with Fry and cleared up quite a bit of the drama, he made an apology on behalf of the people who conjured this plan. He also learned some of the people who claimed "innocent" weren't so innocent after all. Whether any action will be taken against them, is his choice.
I made this post in attempt to hopefully clear up some of the drama and lies. Be rest assured, this post is not meant to stir anything up, but just to straighten out a few things.