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Discussion Diamond Krono drama thread
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Who else would go on rants about how rich they are? There's even a video about it on this thread. Rich.... Rich... Richgirl? RickyJT? Diamond Krono?
Who was using multiple PayPal accounts to obfuscate their real life identity from buyers/sellers but made a mistake by having many of the accounts based out of Grants Pass, Oregon?
If we're all throwing out conspiracies.... this is one of DK's many VPN-based alts (like Mega Man/Prestige Worldwide was) and he's still lashing out to try and take me down with him.
I accomplished my goal of shutting this shit down- so, duplicitous snake to you or not, people are safe from your continued scams... <3
I mean, has this account even recently visited the site or did it just conveniently know that today was a relevant time to come back to the site to specifically target me and derail this thread? @ChatWithThisName / @Sic / etc, any insight?
Talk to anybody that I have dealt with or spoken to and they'll tell you that I'm clean. You seem to be concern trolling about my reputation while ignoring the felony theft that occurred. That's pretty fucking curious.
Hi babe, sorry that your ongoing fraud scheme was brought down. Keep on keeping on. I'm over here living. <3
Who was using multiple PayPal accounts to obfuscate their real life identity from buyers/sellers but made a mistake by having many of the accounts based out of Grants Pass, Oregon?
If we're all throwing out conspiracies.... this is one of DK's many VPN-based alts (like Mega Man/Prestige Worldwide was) and he's still lashing out to try and take me down with him.
I accomplished my goal of shutting this shit down- so, duplicitous snake to you or not, people are safe from your continued scams... <3
I mean, has this account even recently visited the site or did it just conveniently know that today was a relevant time to come back to the site to specifically target me and derail this thread? @ChatWithThisName / @Sic / etc, any insight?
Talk to anybody that I have dealt with or spoken to and they'll tell you that I'm clean. You seem to be concern trolling about my reputation while ignoring the felony theft that occurred. That's pretty fucking curious.
Hi babe, sorry that your ongoing fraud scheme was brought down. Keep on keeping on. I'm over here living. <3
I should know better than to try and add my thoughts/opinions to something, because inevitably someone will use whatever bias they have and say "AH HAH THIS IS WHAT SIC MEANS" - I've not actually really read that geofence thing because the title reads clickbaity to me - and (as a moderator) any time i open that thread all i see is remnants of DK doing DK shit - which is hogging up the entire conversation and back-to-back-to-back deleting shit
--- I try and keep a loose dealing with ectunnel because, as many ec tunnel folks have told me "this place isn't for you". and I'm just trying to help keep reports and toon names and shit clean.
the irony of that is you hadn't even been to the site in a year since the last time you engaged in the geofence post you're referencing - way to participate in changes you want/dont want. gold star, blue-peter badge (if you're such a globetrotter you'll think that's fucking hilarious)
ideas should be considered on the merit of their ideas regardless of what preconceived bias influences your ability to hear it.
if you could just stick to forming your own opinions rather than using my name to back some nonsense i'd be grateful - thanks
Watch out Red, I reacted to your post so fast that it's a conspiracy.
All of this is washing off of me like water off a duck's back.
All of this is washing off of me like water off a duck's back.
It's also pretty god damned curious that an infrequent casual user of this site that joined in 2022 would know who CoinStop is or what he did in the past. For somebody accusing me of not "(grasping) grammar or vocabulary clues" you sure as heck do keep saying too much.
GD hilarious and sad the Ryan twins ended up being right about this dude last year. Sucks for those that ended up getting scammed when all conversation about it was immediately shutdown by mods and he was allowed to keep running his con due to the source. Those videos and the way he reacted to them didn't scream innocence.
To be clear, the Fitzgeralds aren't allowed to be on this website, so any conversation by them is shut down. We enforce bans on scammers, even if they're making their 1,000th account to say something you agree with.
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Honor. Difficult to build. Easy to burn. Nearly impossible to regain. Just ask the Shitzgeralds, whose opinions and words aren't worth 2 pennies. Boromir kept his honor. Them clowns never had any and never will.
Whoa whoa whoa. Had frodo not been able to escape when Boromir was attempting to take the ring, you would have a drastically different opinion on him.
The fact that you can claim that he kept his honor is proof that you believe people can make up for their actions.
Is it not?
Have you seen the fucking movie? lulz
Aragorn SAYS to Boromir: YOU FOUGHT BRAVELY. YOU HAVE KEPT YOUR HONOR. I don't even need to look up the quote. The scene is seared into my eidetic memory.
Implying that Boromir had honor before his temporary fall from grace concerning Frodo.
I said it's "nearly impossible" to regain honor in this world. It's a very hard long road. But the word REGAIN implies they had it to begin with. The posers in question never had it to begin with. You can't regain what you never had to begin with.
Class dismissed.
EDIT: PS. Did you not see the fucking arrows sticking out of Boromir's chest? Yea he kept his honor. But he died defending his friends.
Are you honestly trying to compare these pieces of shit to Boromir? What are you trying to do Pory. Maybe Jesus can save them, but they will never be honored again here at ECT. What part of that do you not get?
Aragorn SAYS to Boromir: YOU FOUGHT BRAVELY. YOU HAVE KEPT YOUR HONOR. I don't even need to look up the quote. The scene is seared into my eidetic memory.
Implying that Boromir had honor before his temporary fall from grace concerning Frodo.
I said it's "nearly impossible" to regain honor in this world. It's a very hard long road. But the word REGAIN implies they had it to begin with. The posers in question never had it to begin with. You can't regain what you never had to begin with.
Class dismissed.
EDIT: PS. Did you not see the fucking arrows sticking out of Boromir's chest? Yea he kept his honor. But he died defending his friends.
Are you honestly trying to compare these pieces of shit to Boromir? What are you trying to do Pory. Maybe Jesus can save them, but they will never be honored again here at ECT. What part of that do you not get?
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Damn I wonder what happened. I haven't done any business with him in over a year and he doesn't owe me anything and I can't message him on Discord either. So I guess he just deleted everything.
Does anyone know FIRST HAND, Not word of mouth, or something they read in a discord. But you were actually part of it or helped, if legal action has ever been prosecuted upon someone for virtual goods that are not technically re-sellable?
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I only saw the other thread at first. Wow this is some wild shit. I remember one of my first convos ever with him was him requesting that I take out "top trader" or whatever I have in one of my thread titles, and that I can't put that there because he's the top trader, and I was like bruh it's the same as like every pizza shop in the world putting "Best Pizza in the World" on their sign, it's not that serious. My mans definitely treated Krono reselling like it's the blood diamond trade, nobody here is getting rich from this. Pretty bizarre, hope he gets better though. Sorry to the people that lost Krono. It'll all come back around in the end.
Based on just the data we are seeing in the open disputes thread, it looks like Diamond owed in excess of 10,000$ at least. This is a major fraud case now. And this is why I was talking about honor earlier, which means roughly "great respect." I liked Diamond Krono sincerely. We had intelligent conversations. But as it is written, a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. And clearly most of us didn't fully know the dark side of him. When you defraud a community you destroy your honor, and there's really no coming back from it. The long hard road I mentioned which very few ever take is when they actually work to pay off all their debts. The difference between Boromir, the Fitzgeralds, and Diamond are many. Boromir was born a noble lord of men. The Fitzgeralds were scammers from the get go. But Diamond worked hard for years here to meticulously build his reputation, then burned it all to fix a short term problem apparently. Underlying causes like drugs or mental illness make me pray he finds the help he needs, because I know that addiction is a fucking beast. Whether Diamond works to repay off his debts here remains to be seen, and criminal charges are possible, but ultimately even if he pays off his debt to society, he has lost his honor. Some people can juggle lies for years, but the amount of lies he was juggling became ridiculous, and in the end the biggest lie was the one he told himself about himself. Some people have interesting characters, but an honest character is always better in the end. If you lie to people about your character, that's not character, and not worthy of respect.
I think a lot of suppliers here have now realized the danger of not demanding payment up front or same day. It's shocking how many people he was running a tab with. Especially on the internet, where there is anonymity and generally less accountability overall. It's a dangerous business practice to let anybody owe you money on the RMT market, regardless of reputation. This is the quintessential example and lesson.
It was shocking revelation that unfolded indeed. on many unkowning suppliers. Just the day before it all blew up DK even refreshed his WTB krono thread. Next day i forget who now had posted Sus thread that DK wouldnt pay first before he would send his krono, from there the dam blew open.
I think his reputation carried alot of weight, more so than even people want to admit. The first time i dealt with him i was selling 290kr and he wanted me to send him all of them, and then he would pay me back as he sold them (this was 3 years ago?). I had never dealt with a big krono reseller, so i assumed that this was normal (which I imagine is the same for alot of first time people), however i was 100% not comfortable loaning $3000 lol. I told him I wouldnt do that, we could do smaller batches of 50kr at a time and I would send the new krono only after receiving payment.
I know the people in my circle who were scammed by him had dealt with him for years. From the start of teek at minimum. And this is how it always went. 1 of the guys, after DK missed a payment deadline more recently, told him that he would no longer "loan out" the krono and demanded payment upfront. DK obliged him until just this recent scam when he sent out the "woe is me loan me krono" discord blast. And probably against his better judgement gave 1 final loan that came back to bite him.
Its unfortunate for other top sellers, cause I feel people will value feedback differently now. But at the same time i never even checked these forums until i was on the site for a year, so maybe it wont impact anything lol
This has no effect on feedback.
The sellers were engaged in very risky behavior, and were taking red flag risks left and right.
This remains a problem between resellers and suppliers.
It has absolutely 0 effect on farmers and the reputations we've built over the years.
The idea that guys like me, Klesko, Golden Company, Xuande etc have anything in common with DK is absurd.
At the end of the day it's the responsibility of those giving feedback to accurately portray their interaction.
If you agreed to one thing and another thing other than what was agreed on happened, then it should be negative feedback.
If someone says they are going to buy X amount of krono from you and then go on the kite the payments, even if you don't give the feedback until they've paid you back it's important that the feedback reflect what happened.
Even more importantly for the user that has had an experience like that...don't do business with them again. If someone treats me poorly, I make it a point not to do business with them.
Was going thru my discord convo's with him and this one was pretty interesting
I ended up loaning him 49 krono for which he said he'd pay me 735. I told him he only had to give me 700 even back which he did and within the time frame he said he would. I thought this interaction was extremely odd tho.
I ended up loaning him 49 krono for which he said he'd pay me 735. I told him he only had to give me 700 even back which he did and within the time frame he said he would. I thought this interaction was extremely odd tho.
Sure, I understand that. You understand that. The other top sellers understand that. But is the guy who only opens the site to buy some krono every few days going to? Like I guarantee they don't know who is a reseller and who is a farmer, nor do they care.
We care because we are much more invested in it than them.
Hate the fact he was using my name in this. I'm most definitely not a "Krono-Guy" so just more spewed bullshit. If anyone came asking me for Kronos, I send them to Krono sellers here at random. So I'd feel a red-flag if DK came asking me for Kronos in any capacity.
Dudes a loser.
EDIT: Also, makes sense why people always thought I was buddies with the guy. Fucking hell.
yep - AND he went ape shit and reported the dude and tried schmearing the dude just because they had a difference of understanding on what the terms of the deal were (both thought the other one would go first) - when dude declined the deal since the terms were finally understood by both parties.
despite the rules
the_rules said:
I wrote my publicthoughts on that > here <
for > me < that seemed like a huge red flag of concern. my private thoughts were "holy shit, this person is harassing someone who said 'no'. dude doesn't understand or respect people saying 'no' - in the same week period of me asking him to stop talking about slavery and him ***HAVING*** to have the last say
I had already told him bringing up slavery before this message as a conversation point to him being upset with dealt21's activity in the community.
this was his first post, which he edited
then this dude edited his post to just "1"
and then to the "you got it sic, my apologies"
then he sent me this message after his day away
notice the absolute loser manipulative language here - Dude is frequently taking a play right out of the DARVO playbook
- sorry about xyz
- - half baked... like editing to a "1" makes it ok? lol
- turns into victimhood "sharing persona opinions here is not welcome"
- "moderators outside of Redbot"
- - he frequently has this bullshit lie thing where he tells people that the moderators (usually teichou) are unhinged and redbot hates them, but his hands are tied because of the system blah blah blah
- - - fucking stupid