So, for those not aware, on the new server, Aradune, they are giving strikes/warnings for boxing more than 2 at once and/or botting.
https://www.everquest.com/news/eq-rizlona-aradune-progression-server-launch-2020
"By playing on Aradune you agree to:
Absolutely No Automated/Unintended Game-play, any incident of automated gameplay is immediate suspension, second offence is ban including Aradune associated accounts.
Boxing any more than 2 characters will result in the following actions taken against your account. First Offence: A written warning from the GM. Second Offence: A 7 day suspension of account privileges on all Aradune related accounts. Third Offence: Permanent ban on all Aradune associated accounts."
Before I get to my question, I want to explain what got me to this point, asking this.
I have had 2 different interactions in regards to buying aradune accounts with strikes on them already.
#1 - I purchased some accounts from someone and the next day I was informed they all got 7 day suspensions. I assume it had to be them catching up to something they caught days or a week prior and it just took them some time. I will say the seller made the contact with me quickly and offered a partial or full refund, depending what I wanted to do and I was still satisfied with our transaction. Shit happens but he made things right so I have no problems with him.
#2 - I was inquiring about purchasing a couple toons and before I made the decision I decided to ask if they had any warnings/suspensions on the accounts. He admits yes they got suspensions. Well, I inquire further because a suspension means they were probably warned first. He replied yes they got warning + suspension. So, these accounts have 2 strikes. I pass on the accounts because of this.
So, my question... Who has the responsibility here? I know that I will 100% ask people about how many strikes are on their accounts before buying, but is there any responsibility on the sellers to be completely upfront with this info and held responsible for lying or hiding the fact that their accounts have 1-2 strikes already?
Should sellers be required to tell people about these strikes without be questioned? Or should it be put on the buyers to be informed enough to ask this question? I would assume most people buying accounts aren't thinking about the fact they might be buying a 2 strike account. And, it might not matter to them. But, there have been a lot of false positives for that stuff so it seems rough if you innocently buy a 2 strike account without knowing and get hit with a 3rd and final strike as your "first warning".
I don't blame anyone CURRENTLY selling striked accounts for not listing it since it isn't a requirement and I imagine there would be some sort of a stigma and MAYBE the characters aren't as appealing. I totally understand this, but I do not think that should negate the fact that having strikes on an account does matter. It is important information. In my opinion, this information is far more important than if a CC was used or a SQ/A is set. Maybe it'll be different for others, but that is me personally.
What are others thoughts on this? Has this come up with anyone else? Would love to hear from others.
Thanks,
Ctalbus
https://www.everquest.com/news/eq-rizlona-aradune-progression-server-launch-2020
"By playing on Aradune you agree to:
Absolutely No Automated/Unintended Game-play, any incident of automated gameplay is immediate suspension, second offence is ban including Aradune associated accounts.
Boxing any more than 2 characters will result in the following actions taken against your account. First Offence: A written warning from the GM. Second Offence: A 7 day suspension of account privileges on all Aradune related accounts. Third Offence: Permanent ban on all Aradune associated accounts."
Before I get to my question, I want to explain what got me to this point, asking this.
I have had 2 different interactions in regards to buying aradune accounts with strikes on them already.
#1 - I purchased some accounts from someone and the next day I was informed they all got 7 day suspensions. I assume it had to be them catching up to something they caught days or a week prior and it just took them some time. I will say the seller made the contact with me quickly and offered a partial or full refund, depending what I wanted to do and I was still satisfied with our transaction. Shit happens but he made things right so I have no problems with him.
#2 - I was inquiring about purchasing a couple toons and before I made the decision I decided to ask if they had any warnings/suspensions on the accounts. He admits yes they got suspensions. Well, I inquire further because a suspension means they were probably warned first. He replied yes they got warning + suspension. So, these accounts have 2 strikes. I pass on the accounts because of this.
So, my question... Who has the responsibility here? I know that I will 100% ask people about how many strikes are on their accounts before buying, but is there any responsibility on the sellers to be completely upfront with this info and held responsible for lying or hiding the fact that their accounts have 1-2 strikes already?
Should sellers be required to tell people about these strikes without be questioned? Or should it be put on the buyers to be informed enough to ask this question? I would assume most people buying accounts aren't thinking about the fact they might be buying a 2 strike account. And, it might not matter to them. But, there have been a lot of false positives for that stuff so it seems rough if you innocently buy a 2 strike account without knowing and get hit with a 3rd and final strike as your "first warning".
I don't blame anyone CURRENTLY selling striked accounts for not listing it since it isn't a requirement and I imagine there would be some sort of a stigma and MAYBE the characters aren't as appealing. I totally understand this, but I do not think that should negate the fact that having strikes on an account does matter. It is important information. In my opinion, this information is far more important than if a CC was used or a SQ/A is set. Maybe it'll be different for others, but that is me personally.
What are others thoughts on this? Has this come up with anyone else? Would love to hear from others.
Thanks,
Ctalbus