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Discussion in 'Banned Users' started by unknown405, Nov 9, 2008.

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  1. unknown405

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    THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG READ!!!​


    So here's my little rant about MMOBugs, I know half the people there worship Fry and believe everything he tells you but everything I'm telling you right now is 100% fact and if you need any more proof then I have it. I've been holding this in since I opened my website, trying to be civil but apparently they don't have the same idea.

    Let's start with when I first opened my website. I put a few plugins from MMOBugs, such as useless ones no one will ever use like MQ2ChuckNorris, and contrary to what Fry will tell you I DID NOT download their source code and add my own plugins, that is complete BS!! I spent hours manually adding and updating all of my own plugins, including the basic ones. I did grab a few things from all the MQ2 sites, not just there, such as plugin lists and other things that would have turned out the exact same if I had typed them and it just saved me maybe 20 minutes.

    I gave them my MQ2DoCrackUpdater before I put it public on my website and helped out in contact with Fry. He gave me free access and I was working my way up by offering my help with anything he needed and my promise to give him some future programs to make it easier to update MQ2 when they were finished. This was before I even had plans to open my website (it was kind of an impulse thing.)

    So let me make this first rant as short as possible... I help out MMOBugs and offer my programs and my work to them, which they at least acted like they appreciated at the time. Once I open my website I get legal threats from Fry and threatening emails saying he had those copyrighted (which any legal guys out there know isn't true.)

    Eventually I got to the point where I paid a lot of money for an intellectual property lawyer, found out that he had no legal grounds to do anything, and still sent an email offering my apologies and agreeing to compensate him for any losses he may have suffered (which honestly wouldn't be any.) He sent an email back demanding $1,000 (maybe $2,000 can't exactly remember) as well as handing over ownership of my domain to him including threats of legal action again if I refuse.

    Well I ended up searching the copyright archives and found that he actually had NOTHING copyrighted, so I refused. I then asked his lawyer for copyright registration numbers which are a prerequisite for any copyright case and he never answered me back. I continued to get legal threats and begun to have him completely shun me from the MQ2 community, spreading lies and libel to everyone.

    I did agree to his demand of pulling my compile until I got permission from every single plugin author, which I now have. Well upon searching for permissions I did find one author (among 2 or 3 total) that refused. This authors name was A_Enchanter_00 and his reasoning was it is an active cheat website, so I asked about MMOBugs and NotAddicted having them. Here is his response...
    So now I find out that after taking a HUGE hit on my reputation, my sales, my finances and more I come to realize that Fry himself didn't even get permission for all of his plugins. Furthermore while looking through the MQ2 website I find that MMOBugs had the same startup as me, except it seemed to be even worst at the time. One of many examples is the following MQ2 thread.

    Furthermore I was in MMOBugs IRC today and I got banned like always. Anyway I was talking to Kodilyn and he gave me this information that I think he may have slipped out forgetting that it's not public. I've asked a few people and none of them recall any notice at all being in the MMOBugs website that their loader gets personal information. Here is a quote from IRC, I have the screenshot if for whatever reason someone doesn't believe it.
    So here's what we've got so far..
    -Fry makes legal threats to me when he has no legal right over a few useless plugins no one uses like MQ2ChuckNorris
    -Fry did not even get permission for all his plugins when he lies and tells EVERYONE he has, I know of 1 plugin for fact. I'm not sure how many there are total
    -Fry had a similar "legal" sticky start up that I did and yet showed no remorse or compassion at all even after I agreed to work with him AND compensate him
    -MMOBugs steals personal information (how deep that goes I'm not sure) in their loader and doesn't even tell you
    -My conclusion why Fry acts so unprofessional and hateful and tells his staff to do the same by spreading lies about me is that he simply did not want any more competition

    I could go on for days, I'm so sick of MMOBugs being snakes and everyone thinking they're angels. They're not what everyone thinks and Fry and the rest of the MMOBugs crew are liars. I'm not going to categorize all MMOBugs staff, I don't have a problem with all of them. But the majority of them are like that, Fry for a fact.

    I may add more to this later, there are a lot more stories I could tell. I may get a lot of hate mail for this because so many people worship Fry for some reason. Has he ever done anything useful anyway? All he does is get his devs to do his work for him and not even pay them a dime. Anyway, this isn't libel or lies, this is all fact and whether people hate me for it or not, I think it needs to be said and I'm sick of holding it in.
     
  2. unknown405

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    OMG that felt so good to get off my chest. Anyway if anyone has any questions about what went on during any of this, feel free to ask. Also feel free to ask about anything you heard about my website, I will be completely honest about it. As long as the answer isn't going to contain any unrelated hate or anything similar to that then I will dish out all the details I know.
     
  3. jimjohnson

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    You got banned from MMOBugs because all you do is come in and slander people in PMs and act like a 7 year old who had his toys taken away.


    Now for your rant that was long but actually rather short. Anyways. Last I checked most any website that you post on stores your IP information. This is the information Kodi was talking about. If you have IP information you can get some personal INFO about the poster.


    Why not just make a post saying

    My name is Server3/Corruption/Unknown405 I like to molest baby kittens.
     
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    Your stupidity and ignorance makes baby jesus weep :(
     
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    Now this was from a convo I had at 3:30CST today with A_Enchanter_00 after I read your bullshit post.

    So just goes to show how you like to lie.

     
  6. unknown405

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    I told kodi that all he can get from my IP is my ISP's business information, NOT my personal information. That's when he made the comment about "not if you've used our loader" so clearly that's not what he was talking about. Also who the hell did I slander in a PM on MMOBugs.

    I actually really expected you to be the first to answer and I expected this answer from you, but like always you don't know anything at all JJ. You are a follower, not a leader. You listen to what certain people like fry, zip and those other people tell you with absolutely no proof at all. You need to grow a pair of balls, grow the fuck up and learn to think for yourself and be your own person.
     
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    I thought it was cute when you came over and started making personal threats via PM earlier! Infact you did it twice trying to be anonymous.

    Did getting banned hurt your little feelings? Aww... poor thing!

    You'd believe the sky was falling if I told you that. Did you know that grass is blue? OMG GO LOOK! IT HAS TO BE TRUE BECAUSE KODI SAID IT!

    Next time don't rip off posts word for word from other sites and you won't get banned dingus.
     
  8. jimjohnson

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    Well lets see you slandered Kodi and myself. For someone who has no balls I stand up for what I think right or wrong. I fight with Zip Fry and all the devs/mods none stop. So calling me a follower again just shows how you like to show your ignorance. I am probably the most individualized person on MMOBugs.
     
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    I never slandered ANYONE, if I did I don't remember it at all. Show me proof, because there is a 99.999% chance that whatever I said, if I even said it, is true. As far as you being a follower, you are. You listen to what others say and follow their lead in situations like this. Kodi I never made a threat to you once. Unless you want to call jokes like this a threat..
    Because I'm sure that's what you're talking about. But if you have any real threats I want to see screen shots because that's BS. I have never threatened anyone, why would I threaten someone online. What am I going to say? I'm going to come to your house and kill you? No one says stuff like that and is actually serious.

    As far as your little "conversation" with A_Enchanter_00 JJ, again you are complete bullshit. I am grabbing screenshots of my private messages with him right now, show me your non existant proof please.
     
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    Unknown even if you want to label me as a follower my integrity is pretty hard to talk bad about.. Even people who dislike me know I dont lie. I have no reason too as I care less what other think of me. Being why I am who I am.

    Unlike you I do not need to lie. posting screen shots (that anyone with halfass ability in photo shop can alter) is not really that hard. Being why people like SOE refuse to use them as evidence against people saying stuff in tells.
     
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    That sounds more like Tourette's .....

    On a side note ... as long as everyone keeps this civil we will leave this thread open ... once it get out of hand, we will close it ... :judge

    -alatyami
     
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    You do realize that posting photo shopped screen shots kinda defeats the purpose of an un manipulated source of proof?

    Also I do not see MMOBugs listed as not having permission

    So next what is next?
     
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    I just photoshopped my name because I don't want to get hate mail from people like you on ANOTHER website, it gets really annoying. Go type www.mmobugs.com on MQ2 forums, it will convert to www.xxxxxx.com - it's obviously filtered, that's not my fault. They must have filtered it after I already had that convo with A_Enchanter_00. If you don't believe me, simply send him a PM on MQ2 forums.
     
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    Yea lol I was just messing around, I wasn't mad or anything. I get that sometimes, I can't help it.
     
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    I already talked to him in IRC today. I don't need to post screen shots to prove you talk trash and slander people. As your initial post was an attempt to slander MMOBugs.

    Again like a few posts up is a copy paste of me asking him here I will even go into a little more dept. Since after I posted that the convo went a little farther.

     
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    I'll continue this conversation with people that aren't on Fry's nuts like JJ, it won't go anywhere. If you want to talk crap to me then go do it at MMOBugs like you always do. This thread is for FACTS, if you don't have any facts or anything more than little quotes where you can edit whatever you want then don't bother saying anything bad about anyone.

    All I edited (paint, not photoshop btw) was the windows in my internet to hide my kiddy porn sites and the tabs at the bottom to hide my kiddy porn videos. Then my name on the PM's because I don't want to get spammed on yet another MQ2 site, it gets old after a few months believe it or not.
     
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    loggin in under random names via webclient thru MMOBugs sending PMs about how you want to stab them in the throat with a jewish dick. gets your jollys off?
     
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    Slander: Definition

    You clearly don't know what slander is. First of all, it's libel when it's print just so you know. Anyway, every last thing I wrote was fact and you can ask anyone involved in it. If Fry or any of them want to lie about it, fine I'm not going to fight this to the death but they know it's true and I still have those emails and all the proof I need to show anyone it's true.
     
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    ...? I've never even heard of that until right now actually. Who told you that? Why the hell would I do that?
     
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    You telling me you did not log in as DuffMAN yesterday and today? only to get banned unbanned then log in as Unknown401 then Unknown406?
     
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    It's been like 10 minutes and already 20+ replies to this thread with me and you arguing. You can keep going, I'm done with you because like I said before, it's not going to go anywhere.
     
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    honestly i don't see proof in those Screenshots, the "do not have my permission" part doesn't mean anything without having the actual question in the same pic. whiting out the quoted part makes it seem like you asked about a different site but used the answer to prove your point.
     
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    words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another


    So claiming they do not have permission is not words spoken damaging someones reputation? I can point out a few phrases in your first post that are slanderish
     
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    You done because you dont want to flat out be caught in a lie when directly asked if you logged in as DuffMAN?
     
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    She's watching .....

    [​IMG]
     
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    lol i'm not caught in any lie, if you're in contact with A_Enchanter_00 just tell him to check those dates that were in the SS's and he'll tell you. Not my fault that the MQ2 site filtered out mmobugs, but it sure tells you something. Better yet why don't you ask your hero if what I said in this post is wrong, all the people I mentioned know it's true and I doubt they would lie knowing I still have the emails and could prove them wrong.
     
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    I love you Yammers :p
     
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    Did you log in as DuffMAN and send PMs to people yes or no? This is the lie you are caught in.

    Also the hiding who you are is pretty weak. if you need more then 1 alias for a community is sad. While the MQ2 Community doesnt get along on all topics is no reason to have 5 different names.
     
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    Ok so it looks like bickering at this point. JJ has always been known to be pretty stand-alone... I don't see him following along with much of anything. As for this entire thread, I'm not sure if any of this really has meaning to the rest of the public on this forum.

    Unless MMOBugs is doing something severely under the table or actually collecting info on each user then I am not sure all of this is even valid for discussion. I have personally went over the 'MMOLoader' with a fine-tooth comb and it doesn't do anything out of the ordinary. It takes your user id and passes it to an api to verify you are a member. IP address + user ID would provide about the most detailed information. Additionally, they have your billing info in most cases... Tracking someone wouldn't be difficult.

    What was the point behind all of this? Sounds like you and Fry have shit to work out and it has nothing to do with NotAddicted. As for my impression of Fry... He has always been very helpful. I've had many conversations in chat and I'm a loyal customer.

    Unknown405 - I know you make contributions to this forum but you also have tendency to just stir the pot a little... Let this die - not sure anyone cares to see it continue.
     
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    None of his pictures have been altered except the white boxes he placed to hide the name etc
     
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    and it doesn't show who/what the comment was made about. Which makes it pointless to even post.
     
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    I said in the beginning that I only posted this to get it off my chest. Maybe "follower" isn't the right word for JJ, but he takes what certain people like zip and fry says to heart with absolutely no proof. Like when he accused me for about 2 weeks on every MQ2 site out there of stealing zips plugins, it's bullshit.
     
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    Right word for me typically is asshole
     
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    This thread is being closed...

    For those reading this thread ... you can make up your own mind as to the topics discussed.

    -Alatyami
     
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