THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG READ!!! So here's my little rant about MMOBugs, I know half the people there worship Fry and believe everything he tells you but everything I'm telling you right now is 100% fact and if you need any more proof then I have it. I've been holding this in since I opened my website, trying to be civil but apparently they don't have the same idea. Let's start with when I first opened my website. I put a few plugins from MMOBugs, such as useless ones no one will ever use like MQ2ChuckNorris, and contrary to what Fry will tell you I DID NOT download their source code and add my own plugins, that is complete BS!! I spent hours manually adding and updating all of my own plugins, including the basic ones. I did grab a few things from all the MQ2 sites, not just there, such as plugin lists and other things that would have turned out the exact same if I had typed them and it just saved me maybe 20 minutes. I gave them my MQ2DoCrackUpdater before I put it public on my website and helped out in contact with Fry. He gave me free access and I was working my way up by offering my help with anything he needed and my promise to give him some future programs to make it easier to update MQ2 when they were finished. This was before I even had plans to open my website (it was kind of an impulse thing.) So let me make this first rant as short as possible... I help out MMOBugs and offer my programs and my work to them, which they at least acted like they appreciated at the time. Once I open my website I get legal threats from Fry and threatening emails saying he had those copyrighted (which any legal guys out there know isn't true.) Eventually I got to the point where I paid a lot of money for an intellectual property lawyer, found out that he had no legal grounds to do anything, and still sent an email offering my apologies and agreeing to compensate him for any losses he may have suffered (which honestly wouldn't be any.) He sent an email back demanding $1,000 (maybe $2,000 can't exactly remember) as well as handing over ownership of my domain to him including threats of legal action again if I refuse. Well I ended up searching the copyright archives and found that he actually had NOTHING copyrighted, so I refused. I then asked his lawyer for copyright registration numbers which are a prerequisite for any copyright case and he never answered me back. I continued to get legal threats and begun to have him completely shun me from the MQ2 community, spreading lies and libel to everyone. I did agree to his demand of pulling my compile until I got permission from every single plugin author, which I now have. Well upon searching for permissions I did find one author (among 2 or 3 total) that refused. This authors name was A_Enchanter_00 and his reasoning was it is an active cheat website, so I asked about MMOBugs and NotAddicted having them. Here is his response... So now I find out that after taking a HUGE hit on my reputation, my sales, my finances and more I come to realize that Fry himself didn't even get permission for all of his plugins. Furthermore while looking through the MQ2 website I find that MMOBugs had the same startup as me, except it seemed to be even worst at the time. One of many examples is the following MQ2 thread. Furthermore I was in MMOBugs IRC today and I got banned like always. Anyway I was talking to Kodilyn and he gave me this information that I think he may have slipped out forgetting that it's not public. I've asked a few people and none of them recall any notice at all being in the MMOBugs website that their loader gets personal information. Here is a quote from IRC, I have the screenshot if for whatever reason someone doesn't believe it. So here's what we've got so far.. -Fry makes legal threats to me when he has no legal right over a few useless plugins no one uses like MQ2ChuckNorris -Fry did not even get permission for all his plugins when he lies and tells EVERYONE he has, I know of 1 plugin for fact. I'm not sure how many there are total -Fry had a similar "legal" sticky start up that I did and yet showed no remorse or compassion at all even after I agreed to work with him AND compensate him -MMOBugs steals personal information (how deep that goes I'm not sure) in their loader and doesn't even tell you -My conclusion why Fry acts so unprofessional and hateful and tells his staff to do the same by spreading lies about me is that he simply did not want any more competition I could go on for days, I'm so sick of MMOBugs being snakes and everyone thinking they're angels. They're not what everyone thinks and Fry and the rest of the MMOBugs crew are liars. I'm not going to categorize all MMOBugs staff, I don't have a problem with all of them. But the majority of them are like that, Fry for a fact. I may add more to this later, there are a lot more stories I could tell. I may get a lot of hate mail for this because so many people worship Fry for some reason. Has he ever done anything useful anyway? All he does is get his devs to do his work for him and not even pay them a dime. Anyway, this isn't libel or lies, this is all fact and whether people hate me for it or not, I think it needs to be said and I'm sick of holding it in.